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| Posted: 06-14-2025 02:14 pm |
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Bent seat frame Attachment: JH Seat Bottom (Drivers Side)1.jpg (Downloaded 8 times)
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| Posted: 06-14-2025 02:18 pm |
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19JH74 Member
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Bent seat frame center Attachment: JH Seat Bottom (Center)1.jpg (Downloaded 8 times)
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| Posted: 06-14-2025 02:23 pm |
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19JH74 Member
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Notice the bent frame and all wires and cables cut Attachment: JH Seat Bottom 1.jpg (Downloaded 8 times) Last edited on 06-14-2025 02:27 pm by 19JH74 |
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| Posted: 06-14-2025 03:27 pm |
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noomg Member
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Mike, I saw your car on BaT, you got a good deal. I even commented during the auction (sliproc). Have you changed that 10 year old timing belt yet? I don't know what BaT is going to be able to do for you. You say the car is unsafe I'm sure if you ask the seller he'll say it is safe so short of hiring a lawyer, which would be catastrophically unwise, it is what it is. So why don't we just focus on getting your car squared away so you can enjoy it. First the problem were those seats is they're way too big they may have seat adjusters but they're wedged in so tight you probably can't see or reach them. The good news is you have a decent pair of original seats. Second the floorboards, the first thing I want to see is what's under the floormats, didn't see that in this auction. Also the underneath photos weren't great but pic #85 did show significant damage to the driver's side and some type of patchwork. From what I could see the right side didn't look to bad but again the photos weren't great and couldn't see what was on top. Just a note about the fiberglass you found, the seller wasn't trying to rip you off with some devious repair. Back in the '60s, '70s, and '80s fiberglass repairs were common. Back then these cars were just drivers nobody ever gave a thought to a long term correct restoration. You'd buy a 6 to 10 year old car and throw a cheap, quickie paint job on it to make it look nice. Fiberglass was much cheaper and quicker than metal work. When I restored my Austin-Healey I found a lot of fiberglass in the sills and doglegs. Patching Jensen-Healey floorboards was not uncommon. Also I'm curious, what are you buying from Robey for $3,700? From what I can see it looks like it wouldn't take more than about $700 or $800 and if you can reach Delta and do some patching yourself probably cheaper.
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| Posted: 06-14-2025 03:54 pm |
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19JH74 Member
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The original seat might look good on the top, but the frames look like they were just ripped out and damaged. The fiberglass repair wouldn't bother except the are no crossmembers, so I'm going to do it right and going to replace everything, I was an aircraft mechanic so I'm not going to half ass it. The problem is and the seller knew these seats were not right and didn't reveal it, his comment was "they were fine for me" with that thinking I could bolt a 2x4 to the floor and say, "it's fine to me". I think the principle is he knew it wasn't right and didn't disclose it. No, I haven't changed the timing belt as I have only driven the car 4 miles because of the seat situation and other things. I might just sell it the way it should have been sold to start with a "Project Car" and let someone else deal with it, depending on what BaT comes up with. Sorry this was so long but I knew I was buying a car unseen as is, as I have 2 others on BaT with ZERO issues. This is not a case of whoops that the seller didn't know, this is serious enough to know the first time you drove the car. I also knew there would be a few issues and I was expecting that, but this is just misrepresentation.
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| Posted: 06-14-2025 06:08 pm |
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vnavaret Member 
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Yes, you are shrinking them too much, but at least you got one to post =:-) Hard to tell, but it looks to me like all you need to do is clean up the rust, and replace the cross members/seat mounts. Of course if there is some fiberglass in there, I can't see it when the picture is that small. Your floors look very much like mine did, but I could poke a screw driver through in numerous spots. Needless to say I was having a very bad day at that point. Cross members are cheap, and do not require much in the way of welding. I bought a cheapie $200 flux welder, which did the job. Vance
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| Posted: 06-14-2025 06:20 pm |
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vnavaret Member
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19JH74 wrote: Bent seat frame center I wonder. If you straighten the brackets, can you sell the non original seats and get a few bucks which would let you buy the needed cross members? You already have seats, and the foam, webbing, and covers are all available new if you decide to refurbish them. I saw the car on BAT, the paint looked very good. There were some bodges, like the windscreen washer bottle, the restrictive foam air filters (noticed that the engine had partially sucked in the foam element, which tells me they are choking the engine), and a few other odds and ends. With the exception of the floors, looks like a decent 50 year old car. Don't get discouraged, almost all the parts you need are available for semi-reasonable prices. Anything you can't find is available used, RedRacer on this forum has a barn full of new and used parts which he has been sourcing to JH owners. I was pretty upset when I saw the state of my floors, but I got them replaced and have moved on. Hope you decide to do the same. Vance
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| Posted: 06-14-2025 08:46 pm |
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Art DeKneef Member
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I'm familiar with this problem also. Having restored a couple of JHs and working on cars in general. The seat mounting piece can be made by hand Not hard with a few basic tools. A better picture of the floor pans would help. So to that question. We are guessing that you are using a Windows computer. Which version of Windows are you using? 10 or 11? I attached a photo to this message. Let's see how it shows up. It is a .jpg file manipulated in the Photos app in Windows 11. Art Attachment: DCP_0020.jpg (Downloaded 6 times) Last edited on 06-14-2025 08:48 pm by Art DeKneef |
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| Posted: 06-14-2025 10:58 pm |
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19JH74 Member
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Windows 11 Pro. Those look new compared to mine. Did a couple videos today and the passenger seat is not as bad but still no cross members/rails and the seat frames a ruined for beating them fit. Reminds me of an old muffler commercial for a few years ago. Customer: Will that fit my car. Mechanic: we'll make it fit.
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| Posted: 06-14-2025 11:50 pm |
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Art DeKneef Member
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I have Windows 11 Pro also. I use the Photos app to adjust picture size when I need to. I got lucky with that car concerning the floor pans and such. The front part of the car, not so much. That was one of the parts cars I cannibalized to save what I could. On one car I had to replace the seat supports on both sides and the driver's side floor pan. Hardest part was drilling out all the spot welds. Making the floor pan wasn't too difficult after making a template from cardboard. Took a while with a lot of test fits to make sure it fit properly. Fitting different seats usually results in needing to make some modifications. I put seats from a 2013 VW Golf into my car. Used the JH rails. Seat sits a little high after my "modifications". I did get the seat back motors to work so there is some adjustment available. Art
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| Posted: 06-15-2025 02:06 pm |
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noomg Member
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Mike, As an aircraft mechanic you know that what passes as good, solid work in the auto industry could be substandard in the aircraft industry so it's easy to see your disappointment. Believe me this is not unusual especially on a car you only paid $8,000 for, if you'd paid $18K I'd be PO'd too. I'm still saying you got a good deal, with necessary repairs this is a $10K to $12K car so you've still got some break even money to work with. As to the floorboards Vance said he could poke a screwdriver through his when I pulled up my floormats I didn't have to I could see the street through mine, the PO didn't even attempt a fix. On the passenger side after I cut it back to clean metal then took a sheet of stainless steel and formed it into place with hammer and dolly and pop riveted into place, that was about 25 years ago. As to the original seats it's hard to tell from your description but if it's the seat sliders that were damaged they are the same ones used on the Austin-Healey so new ones are readily available.
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