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19JH74 Member ![]()
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Hello All, I am new to the Jensen Healey world and have a few questions, 1) do the seats adjust and how do you remove them? 2) does anyone advise floor pans to be riveted if only replacing a section or do you recommend replacing the entire floor pan? I will have more questions as the project goes along so please bear with me. Thanks, Mike |
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vnavaret Member ![]()
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19JH74 wrote: Hello All, The seats have a fore/aft adjustment as well as a backrest tilt adjustment. To remove them, there are four nearly inaccessible screws under the seats that fasten the seat frame to captive nuts in the floor mounts. Because of the rubber mats that were original equipment, the floors and mounts are very susceptible to top down rusting. Once you get the seats removed and the floor coverings out of the car, you can appraise the the damage and needed repairs if any. If you have not removed the rubber mats, you may be in for a shock (Ask me how I know). There are many ways to replace flooring, but of course the best is to use new steel and weld since this will be the strongest possible repair. Replacing only the corroded portions is very acceptable, and certainly easiest. You will probably find that the seat mounts will also need replacing (as I did) since they seem to go just about as fast as the floor itself. As to methods that are accessible to the home mechanic, panel adhesive, riveting, and brazing are options all with various advantages and tradeoffs. My total restoration has been a 2-1/2 year journey to date, but I am almost there. New floors, paint, new interior, new fuel system, rebuilt suspension, bumpers, etc have all been done. What's left? Soft top and engine which is currently at the machine shop. Welcome aboard! Vance |
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19JH74 Member ![]()
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Thanks, the seats and rails have been replaced, but they rock like there are parts missing, I have the original seats. I'll get the seats out then access. Where is the adjustment, I might just not know where to look? Hopefully this won't take too long as it is in pretty good shape except for a few things. Last edited on 06-11-2025 04:55 pm by 19JH74 |
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19JH74 wrote: Thanks, the seats and rails have been replaced, but they rock like there are parts missing, I have the original seats. I'll get the seats out then access. Where is the adjustment, I might just not know where to look? The rocking may be due to corroded seat mounts which are sheet metal with captive nuts and welded to the floor pans (arrowed in the picture). As far as accessing the adjustment controls, if the seats are not original all bets are off. The fore/aft adjustment on an original seat is a lever below the outside edge of the front seat bolster, move the tip of lever towards the door and slide the seat. The tilt for the back is a lever on the side of the seat closest to the door, at the junction between the bottom of the seat and the seat back. If you are having difficulty finding the adjustments, I must ask if the new seats have any adjustments at all. Attachment: Screenshot 2025-06-11 154441.jpg (Downloaded 17 times) Last edited on 06-11-2025 10:52 pm by vnavaret |
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19JH74 Member ![]()
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I have not found any adjustment on the new seats, I think they came from a GT, I did find the adjustments on the original seats. I will try looking again tomorrow. Thanks for the help Last edited on 06-11-2025 10:56 pm by 19JH74 |
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Mike, "Hopefully this won't take too long", that's funny. I'm not clear on what you've got going here. So you want to remove the seats to access the floor pans and cross members (seat mounts). You have two sets of seats, the originals still in the car and a set from a Jensen GT correct? The GT seats are the same ones used in the Jensen-Healey so all adjustments are the same. The only real difference between the two is upholstery and headrests. The chrome lever on the door side of the seat bottom moves the seatback fore and aft. The lever under the front of the seat moves side to side and moves the seat forward or back in the car. "The seats and rails have been replaced", what seats were replaced, the originals? If that's the case wouldn't you already know how to remove the seats? And what rails, do you mean the crossmembers that the seats are mounted to or are you talking about the adjustment rails on the bottom of the seats? Once the seats are out you can assess the floorboards and crossmembers, Delta has all pieces you'll need. |
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19JH74 Member ![]()
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noomg, By not taking long depends on what else I find but overall, the car is in good shape. I just purchased the car a couple months ago and the seats were changed out before I got it. I have looked all over and NOT found any chrome handles on either seat, I did find them on the original seats. After further review I don't know if the cross-member rails were replaced, the ones on the seat were, since they are still attached. I have called delta several times with no response. Any more suggestions I'm all ears. Last edited on 06-12-2025 04:54 pm by 19JH74 |
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I have a mess!! The reason I could adjust the seat was because it was all F^(ked up. It was not even secure, that's why it wobbled and wouldn't move. There are NO cross rails, and the bottom has been bent to make it fit, I will try to include some pics. At this point I thinking of starting over, thoughts? Can't figure out how to load the pics, I've changing the size, any suggestions. Last edited on 06-12-2025 05:08 pm by 19JH74 |
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vnavaret Member ![]()
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To load the picture, you must use the "Reply" option, not the "Quick Reply" option. There will be an "attachment" option at the bottom of the reply window after you click the button. You are limited to a single image per message, and it must be no larger than 102,000 bytes, which is rather small. You can reside an image in Windows Paint or your favorite photo editor, and it will show you the size after you resize it. Sadly, if the image is too large, you get an error message and the text you enter in the reply window is lost. So make sure the image is smaller than the limit when you click the "post" button. I do a "copy" of the text window before I click "post" so that if the whole thing takes a dump on me, I can paste my text back into the reply window rather than retype everything. As to your seats, sounds like you are experiencing first hand the weak point in the JH. The rubber mats that the factory used encourage the cross members (seat mounts) to rust so by now most cars have some sort of issue with mounting the OEM seats and perhaps the floor boards. When I got my car, the seat mounts had been replaced with steel bar stock that didn't fit and I could put a screw driver through the floors in several spots. I too have had difficulties getting Delta to respond, which is why I favor Martin Robey. They have excellent customer support via email. The shipping is higher than Delta, but you get some help when you need it and their on line catalog is better since you have images and can tell when an item is in stock. Courage, my friend. We are here to help. Vance |
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Mike, "Depends on what else I find", I see you've gotten my point. First things first, did you get the seats out so you can assess the floorboards? If they're not too bad you can patch with sheet metal (stainless steel is my preference) and pop rivets work if you don't have access to a welder. Remember these aren't classics so you can do what works and not worry to much about what's correct. If you do use pop rivets I'd use S/S and don't skimp. There's usually two reasons to replace the crossmembers, either they've rusted out from the bottom and lost their integrity or the capture nuts are screwed up or missing. The originals are welded in so they'll have to be cut out but the new ones can also be installed with pop rivets. You'll have to decide want you want to do about the seats. The ones with no adjustments could be some kind of racing seat. If it was me I'd go with the originals, you know they'll fit and they're comfortable. If you want to see how my interior turned out you can check out my thread in the Projects section. |
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19JH74 Member ![]()
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HAHA, the seats were easy to remove, they were not attached to anything there is NO floor pan just a wad of fiberglass. I have contacted BaT about the car being misrepresented by the seller, I am also getting quotes for all new parts including seats. I tried uploading pics, but I cannot shrike it small enough. |
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vnavaret Member ![]()
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Your experience is very close to mine, although to be fair the seller was selling it "as is" with many photos, but the photos were misleading since the underside of the car is undercoated from the factory which hid the true nature of the floors. The rubber mats inside are not removable unless you remove the seats first, so photos of the floor boards were problematic. There is great parts support for the car from Delta and from Martin Robey, so you need not despair although the extent of the needed repairs is disappointing, I know. Shrinking the photos is pretty straightforward. Are you a Windows guy, Linux, MacOS or ?? I can send you a quickie tutorial if you need one. If you look in the "Projects" section you read about my travails and how I handled them. I have a few photos in there as well. I ended up cutting out what was left of the floor boards and welding in new floors. As I mentioned there are many ways to secure the new floors with varying degrees of strength. Fear not, you can do this! Vance |
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Yes he was misleading, and I did buy it as, however anybody be it the car 5 minutes and tell something was wrong with the seats and investigated them and you would clearly see the problem as they were not secured and had no way of securing them. So far just looking at the things I know I will need is over $3700 from Martin Robey, I have called Delta about 10 or more times with no response. yes, show me how to shrink pics and you will see why I'm pissed Last edited on 06-13-2025 06:07 pm by 19JH74 |
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redracer Member
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Just read this post; sorry about your troubles, but email or phone me if you have questions. My info is listed under my profile. bruce/redracer |
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redracer Member
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btw, if you give me the vin # (1110-*****), I may know the history of this car as it's in the SE bruce |